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"rrr" Rick Kuter's avatar

Thank you, Wade. You have always been a "rogue" prophet, going against the grain of the popular sentiments for the sake of being an advocate for the oppressed, vulnerable, victims of "the system". I admire you for that. I don't always agree with your viewpoints on some matters, but after all, "on non-essentials-Liberty", right?

Personally, I prefer to have men as my pastor. I can see the differences in DNA between men and women, how they have different world perspectives, ways of dealing with emotions, and how they are different in the manner in which they handle situations. Women have certain strengths over men, and vice versa. Women tend to be more dramatic, want to "talk" about things more and "discuss feelings", etc., than men. In other words, I see "women" as being "different" than "men", generally. And I am glad for that.

At the same time, I have seen the value of women in ministry. When serving in other countries, where the entire issue of "gender in ministry" is not what it is in the "west", I have seen women pastors who put other "men" pastors to shame in terms of their church planting gifts, evangelism, discipling strengths, and spiritual leadership.

I have been drawn, as the Baptist missionary assigned to an area, to participate in the ordination council for deacons in Africa where we ordained as many women as we did men. But the women deacons in Zambia assumed a different ministry role than the men, by choice. They were better in the role than men because they did assert themselves in a Godly way, using the gifts identified according to their female roles.

All that to say, I could never take a position opposing women in ministry. The current crusade to forbid women in "any" ministry as having the "title" of "pastor" is about as absurd and chauvinist as could be.

What really is disappointing to me is the battles that Convention leadership chooses to highlight. Here we are surrounded by a broken, dark, and lost world, with Southern Baptist churches struggling to win souls to Christ and baptisms decreasing, and our "salt" becoming more and more without its savor, and our "light" becoming more dim. In the midst of all of these significant problems, the priority we choose to get excited about is the political, pride based, charge to have an amendment condemning the term, "pastor", for women.

Surely, there are some serious, spiritual, problems, here.

Guy Muse's avatar

Thank you for such a well-expounded article on a subject that remains a heated issue here in the US, even as the rest of the world has long since moved toward a clearer understanding of New Testament teachings. During my own blogging years on the mission field, I covered this topic many times, but never as articulately as you have here. This piece is definitely a keeper, along with the PDF you and your father put together (which I look forward to reading later).

Ironically, while this debate rages on stateside, the conversation surrounding women's roles is a mere whisper on the global stage. It seems strange that we are still going round and round on this issue in the States, while God's train has moved on in the rest of the world—taking the Gospel to the nations by utilizing His entire army of obedient followers. I fear our testimony is diminishing among global believers who are less pharisaical about these issues and simply more intent on obeying the Lord's commands. After all, what good is it to have all the "right" theological answers if we aren't fulfilling clear commands like the Great Commission?

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